Lastpass and the Security of Security Products

The gang discusses the Lastpass breach and the need for the security of utility-style security providers. We discuss Lastpass from a different angle - the responsibility of "hard security" providers. 

As security practitioners, we have been telling users to "just use a password manager." So what do we do now? How do password managers impact the way we give advice?

Lastpass is as "hard security" service as it can be - are security people taking things as seriously as they should? Are we too "here's your two months of credit policing, thank you very much" accommodated? We explore and reach some conclusions.